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PostSubject: L2P : Mage spec/vs classes   L2P : Mage spec/vs classes Icon_minitimeTue 28 Oct 2008, 6:15 pm

I can only get current WOTLK talents, not really best and i'm not sure if VCN has upgraded to 3.02

But regardless here they are

Deep arcane / fire depends on pure crits from presence of mind up, increases crit chance by 30% use instants than pyroblast - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=o0xVcuMIzxGzMtzbfV0bo

In action - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZQ5wqqIUH4

Next spec is a nice deep frost spec. This spec depends on your bursts with your frozen targets, deep freeze will keep them frozen and stun them therefor making them very vunerable, not to mention the buff on the Ice Barrier. When it is broken it freezes the targets. FROZEN = CRITS REMEMBER! - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oZoZAI0Iofuhfdgbst

in action - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xXNsV4-BEc

Then deep fire. This is mainly with your blast wave dragons breath and flamestrike spell, although if your a good mage you would also use scorch and fireblast, when you have time fireball, although pyroblast could be instant so watch out for that buff, mention - Mages blast wave buffed with knockback use this to your very good advantage!. This spec very well could be used for pvp just no one has found a way yet, but i for one have. I will not blow my secret because o/w everyone else would copy it. How i specced this spec, is i made it so i had great survivability, as well as burst

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oZfEffohcuiubGsd

spec used in action - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY8kRLkzrpQ

Keep in mind these are only the 3 basics, i could make it much complicated if i knew WOTLK better and it was out longer. These are the 3 mainly known ones, if you can mix them together that would be awesome but TEST BEFORE YOU POST! Also just POM then rest fire doesn't look like a good spec for PVP in wotlk might be a PVE spec but thats about it. Even then pve fire would be better and pvp arcane or fire.

also scruff i know your watching the frost video right now, and please don't criticize

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How to duel-
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Dueling is relatively simple for a mage. Pretty much it's basic concepts although some classes are harder to face than others. Example a paladin (since no one knows how to play one) would be pretty easy to beat even in like 70 blues or 60 warfare epics. Except Feral druids that know how to play are ultimately one of the hardest to face. But i'll tell you how to kill them! Only the hardest spec of each class

How to kill - FERAL DRUIDS

1. If you don't want to use blink on pounce you might wanna just wait it out (has been done even with low gear) or you can ice block out. But then after that they can feral charge and bash which then you should use Ice block or Blink. This is a very skillful strategy to kill a mage. Of course it is highly difficult to do if you don't know how to play a feral druid.

2. Watch out for cyclone or any kind of healing USE COUNTERSPELL, deep freeze, slow, dragonsbreath, blast wave (knockback ftw)

3. Make sure they don't double team druids they are a pain in the ass....

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How to Kill - Disc priest

1. Pretty basic don't let them heal COUNTERSPELL, deep freeze, slow, dragonsbreath, blast wave (knockback ftw).

2. Try getting your highest burts within the seconds. If you get that big burst and use counterspell while they heal, they are dead.. Although you actually don't need the "lucky burst" like a shammys old windfurry, i'd say it's not luck at all pretty common

3. Use ice block if you need to because of phsycic scream although mages can avoid that use blink when they get close to you.

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How to kill - Resto shammy

Pretty much do a bit of damage till they start healing then use counterspell keep bursting and making it so they can't heal ez kill Very Happy there healing is a "nature" healing and thats what it counts as, so no earth shock therefor you can cast.

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Requested- How to kill ret pally

1. Don't let them heal COUNTERSPELL, deep freeze, slow, dragonsbreath, blast wave (knockback ftw).

2. Do not let them get you locked, as in if they get close to you with a hammer of justice (no blink ice block or trinket up) your dead. The best way to do this is to polymorph at the beggining of the fight. If you can not do that Frost nova, they will blessing of freedom, you can easily spellsteal that, and most pally's don't cleanse therefor it's pretty much a win. DO NOT BLINK UNLESS THEY USE HAMMER OF JUSTICE! this is very important when dueling a pally. The six second stun will make you fall to the floor.

3. Use spells to make the paladin stay back. Ways to do this is to deep freeze, slow, dragons breath, cone of cold,and Blast wave. A way to use a combination is dragons breath and polymorph

4. Use your instant casts. Although when the paladin is frost nova'd and pretty much stuck use other spells not just ice lance - - Frostbolt will do your main amount of damage it helps alot! Also dragonsbreath scorch works very well!


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Where's the "How to kill a Ret Pally"? They're Mage anti-class.

Oh wait, I know where that's at. Right here.
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Where's the "How to kill a Ret Pally"? They're Mage anti-class.

Oh wait, I know where that's at. Right here.

Actually your wrong, ret pallys on this server suck sooooo much because they don't know how to play, therefor it's kinda self explanatory it's pretty ez....

but i will add it just for you Smile
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Great Guide Brah.Resto Shammys are simple like you said lol 2 frostbolts and they're gone.
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Great Guide Brah.Resto Shammys are simple like you said lol 2 frostbolts and they're gone.

If you want to be the fastest wins of wins. Frost nova imp counterspell arcane power frostbolt POM frostbolt dead Smile
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I got my own tactics
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I got my own tactics

okay i never really said nor did i imply you have to follow what i do Smile i can't really type out what i do either so it's a lil shabby but w/e
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PostSubject: Re: L2P : Mage spec/vs classes   L2P : Mage spec/vs classes Icon_minitimeWed 29 Oct 2008, 7:24 pm

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Where's the "How to kill a Ret Pally"? They're Mage anti-class.

Oh wait, I know where that's at. Right here.

Actually your wrong, ret pallys on this server suck sooooo much because they don't know how to play, therefor it's kinda self explanatory it's pretty ez....

but i will add it just for you Smile

Well, these guides could be used for retail or something else. Not every Ret Pally here is bad.
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PostSubject: Re: L2P : Mage spec/vs classes   L2P : Mage spec/vs classes Icon_minitimeWed 29 Oct 2008, 8:49 pm

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iceshadow30 wrote:
Where's the "How to kill a Ret Pally"? They're Mage anti-class.

Oh wait, I know where that's at. Right here.

Actually your wrong, ret pallys on this server suck sooooo much because they don't know how to play, therefor it's kinda self explanatory it's pretty ez....

but i will add it just for you Smile

Well, these guides could be used for retail or something else. Not every Ret Pally here is bad.

Most actually don't know how to play. Therefor i made like a simple guide of what i do
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PostSubject: Re: L2P : Mage spec/vs classes   L2P : Mage spec/vs classes Icon_minitimeWed 29 Oct 2008, 9:26 pm

This guide is... ok
you said mages are simple to play.
Shutup please, they aren't, It's like this: Lag = bad, no concentratoin = bad, fucking up = Bad.
UNTIL Rouslan fixes the LoS, i aint playing mages.
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This guide is... ok
you said mages are simple to play.
Shutup please, they aren't, It's like this: Lag = bad, no concentratoin = bad, fucking up = Bad.
UNTIL Rouslan fixes the LoS, i aint playing mages.

Lol thats kinda a nice way to say it...

shutup! please... lol sorry kinda lol'd at that

And btw you said

Lag = bad, no concentratoin = bad, fucking up = Bad.

Thats like that with every class if you did NOT know

LoS un-fixed is bad.. and good for every class.. Warrior can not use LoS for hiding from ranged, although they can charge through walls....

Melee with rogues same thing except they can shadowstep

Hunters same as mages, can not hide from Melee/other casters/ranged...

Practicly it's good and bad for every class... so it's kinda even..

Mages are relatively easy compared to Fury Warriors, feral druids, and a GOOD Affliction warlock (non fear spam). The only thing bad about mages is it takes time to learn....... Unlike a destro warlock fear and soul fire...
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Rombus wrote:
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Yeah, she does a better job than me


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I wanted to try mages and I actually followed this guide. Didn't help what-so-ever. It''s probably just me though, GG.
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1. yeah youve probably beaten me, im not invincible

2. You cant make a guide and be only like "do x when you are fighting y class" It doesnt work, teach people about their abilities, good tips at using them, and different tricks

Heres my mage guide (a little out dated but whatever): http://www.vcnserver.net/general-discussions-f1/mage-guide-t5354.htm
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1. yeah youve probably beaten me, im not invincible

2. You cant make a guide and be only like "do x when you are fighting y class" It doesnt work, teach people about their abilities, good tips at using them, and different tricks

Heres my mage guide (a little out dated but whatever): http://www.vcnserver.net/general-discussions-f1/mage-guide-t5354.htm

You know your right maybe giving guides ain't my thing lol...

i'll leave the guides to you i guess =/
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I made a guide too Rolling Eyes

But i didnt post it
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