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| Subject: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:13 pm | |
| Hello, this is my second guide here. I am pretty well expirienced from playing a mage for a year and a few months and learning much from nemefist and others. (This is a big wall of text. caution) Lets get down too business! Mage duels are very spec determined, i am going to review situations against 3 different specs. Duels against 17/44/0 (Deepfire) Duels against 17/0/44 (ARena Frost Duels Against 0/41/20 (Ive seen this spec alot which makes me happy beacause it is so useful.) So first lets go against a deepfire mage that has imp cs o_0! Scary prospect, Very scary for a frost mage. That dragons breathe, those ignite ticks ewww! You start with Frostshield and fireward ofcourse ;P Always have a mana emerald ready incase of oomage.what your going to open with is running the other direction and spellstealing until dampen magic and the ward they used is gone, then blink back, nova , cs and cast frostbolt, alot of mages willl go O LOL SHATTER lets pvp trinket. They trinket, so after you frostbolt, fireblast and run away, the opposite direction and put up mana shield. If they spam scorch without silencing, you just keep running till out of range now they are going to come at you, now you spam scorch , they will silence, and now you run around them spamming wand , once their cs is off you, nova, cs, and frostbolt/icelance, then fireward right away (its off cd by now) they will dragons breathe, ICEBLOCK, they go onoe, and now you come out, frostshield up, pop icey veins and start spamming frostbolt. cast about two then , then spam scorch, loololol. They will silence , and now run. Come back shatter and should be dead by now. Now against 0/41/20 Mean spec, they can frostbolt, scorch hard and dragons breathe, You want to spam scorch, most mages are retarded and go OLOl silence, once they do, no imp cs mate, hit icey veins and spam it, and rpetty much nuke them, theirs not much too do unless you want to be pro and spellsteal dampen, make them waste silence by fakin g a frostbolt( i dont advise this) but i will describe how to, cast for like half asecond, then move, if they waste if gg, if they ever silence frostbolt, you run away as far as you can During this duel frostshield up as much as you can, and keep fireward up when ever you can, trinket and iceblock when they dragons breathe, and you will be fine. Now lets review that, What your trying to do is deal around 3-4k damage with shatters and then staying out of range while cs is on cd so they cant rape you. If they ever try scorching while your silence is up, silence and frostbotl and SPAM that bitch! game over! Always save trinket, and Iceblock for dragons breathe, dragons breathe=DB,Scorch,FB combo. Now Against another 17/0/44 Mage this is a normal duel. You start with frostshield,manashield and if they have over 12k hp, you frostward if not fireward (this is because if they stam stack, fireblast is not something that will concern you) You start with cone of cold then spam spellsteal (4 times MAX) and make sure dampen magic+frost shield is yours, if you take both immediately nova ,silence, and frostbolt. When silence is off cd they will try the same, what you try do if they nova you CIEBLOCK, they will most likely silence your iceblock!! hahha, come out and spam that frostbolt, if they do manage to shatter you, if you dont have any shield up trinket, if you have only frost, and you have more % of health then them, just take it, then you coc, and spam frostbolt til cs is up. Then you shatter, if they have shield up spellsteal, most likely youll have low mana, MANA EMERALD Thats the basics against a frost mage, getting the first shatter and being able to take their shatter while taking off their shields so they take the damage isntead of absorbing. I wont talk about elemental because im not a fag. |
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:15 pm | |
| - Tehvurt wrote:
- Hello, this is my second guide here. I am pretty well expirienced from playing a mage for a year and a few months and learning much from nemefist and others.
(This is a big wall of text. caution) Lets get down too business!
Mage duels are very spec determined, i am going to review situations against 3 different specs.
Duels against 17/44/0 (Deepfire)
Duels against 17/0/44 (ARena Frost
Duels Against 0/41/20 (Ive seen this spec alot which makes me happy beacause it is so useful.)
So first lets go against a deepfire mage that has imp cs o_0! Scary prospect, Very scary for a frost mage. That dragons breathe, those ignite ticks ewww!
You start with Frostshield and fireward ofcourse ;P Always have a mana emerald ready incase of oomage.what your going to open with is running the other direction and spellstealing until dampen magic and the ward they used is gone, then blink back, nova , cs and cast frostbolt, alot of mages willl go O LOL SHATTER lets pvp trinket.
They trinket, so after you frostbolt, fireblast and run away, the opposite direction and put up mana shield. If they spam scorch without silencing, you just keep running till out of range now they are going to come at you, now you spam scorch , they will silence, and now you run around them spamming wand , once their cs is off you, nova, cs, and frostbolt/icelance, then fireward right away (its off cd by now) they will dragons breathe, ICEBLOCK, they go onoe, and now you come out, frostshield up, pop icey veins and start spamming frostbolt. cast about two then , then spam scorch, loololol. They will silence , and now run. Come back shatter and should be dead by now.
Now against 0/41/20
Mean spec, they can frostbolt, scorch hard and dragons breathe, You want to spam scorch, most mages are retarded and go OLOl silence, once they do, no imp cs mate, hit icey veins and spam it, and rpetty much nuke them, theirs not much too do unless you want to be pro and spellsteal dampen, make them waste silence by fakin g a frostbolt( i dont advise this) but i will describe how to, cast for like half asecond, then move, if they waste if gg, if they ever silence frostbolt, you run away as far as you can
During this duel frostshield up as much as you can, and keep fireward up when ever you can, trinket and iceblock when they dragons breathe, and you will be fine.
Now lets review that, What your trying to do is deal around 3-4k damage with shatters and then staying out of range while cs is on cd so they cant rape you. If they ever try scorching while your silence is up, silence and frostbotl and SPAM that bitch! game over!
Always save trinket, and Iceblock for dragons breathe, dragons breathe=DB,Scorch,FB combo.
Now Against another 17/0/44 Mage this is a normal duel. You start with frostshield,manashield and if they have over 12k hp, you frostward if not fireward (this is because if they stam stack, fireblast is not something that will concern you)
You start with cone of cold then spam spellsteal (4 times MAX) and make sure dampen magic+frost shield is yours, if you take both immediately nova ,silence, and frostbolt.
When silence is off cd they will try the same, what you try do if they nova you CIEBLOCK, they will most likely silence your iceblock!! hahha, come out and spam that frostbolt,
if they do manage to shatter you, if you dont have any shield up trinket, if you have only frost, and you have more % of health then them, just take it, then you coc, and spam frostbolt til cs is up. Then you shatter, if they have shield up spellsteal, most likely youll have low mana, MANA EMERALD
Thats the basics against a frost mage, getting the first shatter and being able to take their shatter while taking off their shields so they take the damage isntead of absorbing. I wont talk about elemental because im not a fag. Wall of Text crits you for OVER NINE THOUSAND! | |
| | | Holypeanut CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:17 pm | |
| Vurtne fails don't listen! | |
| | | Boozorz Begginer
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 24 Dec 2008, 5:47 pm | |
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| | | Royalpimp Sentino
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 4:44 pm | |
| Frost mages 17/00/44 are usually the winning spec vs other mages , especially if using Icy Veins and SKull of Gul'dan for some nice haste abuse . Not a bad guide but decent mages will pose more of challenge then how you described , mages having lots of potential 'strategies' , although this guide works vs ordinary retarded mages . | |
| | | Spotlight CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 4:49 pm | |
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| | | Min0rity CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 5:00 pm | |
| i was going to say the same Spot. Wth is this guide? Did you duel some pretty crap mages because thats as far as im aware what i see: LULZ HES SPAMMIN SCORCH! A real fire mage wouldnt spam scorch at start he'd spam scorch then go for instant pyro - Wut | |
| | | Spotlight CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 5:02 pm | |
| - Min0rity wrote:
- i was going to say the same Spot.
Wth is this guide? Did you duel some pretty crap mages because thats as far as im aware what i see: LULZ HES SPAMMIN SCORCH!
A real fire mage wouldnt spam scorch at start he'd spam scorch then go for instant pyro - Wut You start with a dragon's breath then a fireblast then a blast wave then a frost nova then start the scorch if you are full fire. Also spellsteal? Do you expect him to just stand there while you spam that mana waster? | |
| | | Min0rity CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 5:15 pm | |
| - Spotlight wrote:
- Min0rity wrote:
- i was going to say the same Spot.
Wth is this guide? Did you duel some pretty crap mages because thats as far as im aware what i see: LULZ HES SPAMMIN SCORCH!
A real fire mage wouldnt spam scorch at start he'd spam scorch then go for instant pyro - Wut You start with a dragon's breath then a fireblast then a blast wave then a frost nova then start the scorch if you are full fire.
Also spellsteal? Do you expect him to just stand there while you spam that mana waster? and what makes the OP think that the mage is just going to sit there and let you spellsteal him when he can spellsteal you. Think mate, think. | |
| | | john95 Assassin
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 5:17 pm | |
| - Royalpimp wrote:
- Frost mages 17/00/44 are usually the winning spec vs other mages , especially if using Icy Veins and SKull of Gul'dan for some nice haste abuse . Not a bad guide but decent mages will pose more of challenge then how you described , mages having lots of potential 'strategies' , although this guide works vs ordinary retarded mages .
Lol snob Skull of Gul'Dan is not spell haste abuse its a temporary buff. Go play retail. | |
| | | seriousskil1 CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 5:17 pm | |
| - Spotlight wrote:
- Min0rity wrote:
- i was going to say the same Spot.
Wth is this guide? Did you duel some pretty crap mages because thats as far as im aware what i see: LULZ HES SPAMMIN SCORCH!
A real fire mage wouldnt spam scorch at start he'd spam scorch then go for instant pyro - Wut You start with a dragon's breath then a fireblast then a blast wave then a frost nova then start the scorch if you are full fire.
Also spellsteal? Do you expect him to just stand there while you spam that mana waster? Use bears. | |
| | | Min0rity CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 5:21 pm | |
| I found this: - Quote :
- iceblock when they dragons breathe,
- Quote :
Dragon's Breath Rank 4 31% of base mana Instant cast 20 sec cooldown vs. - Quote :
- Ice Block
Instant 5 min cooldown | |
| | | Vraagteken CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 5:22 pm | |
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| | | Spotlight CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 5:29 pm | |
| - john95 wrote:
- Royalpimp wrote:
- Frost mages 17/00/44 are usually the winning spec vs other mages , especially if using Icy Veins and SKull of Gul'dan for some nice haste abuse . Not a bad guide but decent mages will pose more of challenge then how you described , mages having lots of potential 'strategies' , although this guide works vs ordinary retarded mages .
Lol snob Skull of Gul'Dan is not spell haste abuse its a temporary buff. Go play retail. Haste is bugged here, Skull gives haste. Go play retail | |
| | | seriousskil1 CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 5:47 pm | |
| - Spotlight wrote:
- john95 wrote:
- Royalpimp wrote:
- Frost mages 17/00/44 are usually the winning spec vs other mages , especially if using Icy Veins and SKull of Gul'dan for some nice haste abuse . Not a bad guide but decent mages will pose more of challenge then how you described , mages having lots of potential 'strategies' , although this guide works vs ordinary retarded mages .
Lol snob Skull of Gul'Dan is not spell haste abuse its a temporary buff. Go play retail. Haste is bugged here, Skull gives haste.
Go play retail I'm pretty sure it's not bugged on 3.0.3 | |
| | | Fergie 2.0 CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 5:51 pm | |
| - Vraagteken wrote:
- counterspell
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| | | davidkolenko CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 6:11 pm | |
| - Fergie 2.0 wrote:
- Vraagteken wrote:
- counterspell
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| | | seriousskil1 CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 6:12 pm | |
| - davidkolenko wrote:
- Fergie 2.0 wrote:
- Vraagteken wrote:
- counterspell
David just so you know, I will be there to rear your child. | |
| | | Balendin CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 6:14 pm | |
| FYI.
Counterspell is bugged. KK?
Dragon's breath then fireblast? NO JUST.... NO
Dragon's Breath then Ice block? lolwat.
seriously this topic contains no one that has a clue of what the bugs are or how to even PLAY a mage. | |
| | | seriousskil1 CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 6:16 pm | |
| - Balendin wrote:
- FYI.
Counterspell is bugged. KK?
Dragon's breath then fireblast? NO JUST.... NO
Dragon's Breath then Ice block? lolwat.
seriously this topic contains no one that has a clue of what the bugs are or how to even PLAY a mage. Someone said dragon's breath then fire blast? o.O | |
| | | davidkolenko CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 6:18 pm | |
| Yes only the pros use it though | |
| | | Fergie 2.0 CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 6:19 pm | |
| DRAGON BREATH ARCANE BLAST NIGGAAAAAAAA | |
| | | seriousskil1 CIA
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| Subject: Re: How to beat another mage as a Frost Mage Wed 07 Jan 2009, 6:20 pm | |
| - Fergie 2.0 wrote:
- DRAGON BREATH ARCANE MISSILES NIGGAAAAAAAA
FIXED. | |
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