The Skinny on Mages

I've seen a lot of different views about mages after all the fixes we've gone through.
I think it's time to clear up a few things about them.

1. Now that frost mages have all of their procs working, they are fine.
This is probably the biggest misconception out there.
As it currently stands, a frost mage is missing 3 different Shatters; Deep Freeze, Fingers of Frost, and Ele Pet Freeze.
I cannot stress enough how vital Shatter is to a frost mage.

Shatter enables a frost mage to maintain their burst while moving. I think the biggest cause for people thinking that frost mages are fine is because without LoS working, a frost mage can spam frostbolts and fireballs.

Frankly, I would be ok if we had Ele Pet Nova and Deep Freeze Shatters, and I would do without Brain Freeze.

Now is the part I will most likely get the most flak for.
Arcane is an easy spec, but most mages do not know how to use it to its full potential. And yes, Arcane Barrage damage on here is too high.

agree but arcane barrage damage isnt too high

Agreed.

bertneykek wrote:

I've seen a lot of different views about mages after all the fixes we've gone through.
I think it's time to clear up a few things about them.

1. Now that frost mages have all of their procs working, they are fine.
This is probably the biggest misconception out there.
As it currently stands, a frost mage is missing 3 different Shatters; Deep Freeze, Fingers of Frost, and Ele Pet Freeze.
I cannot stress enough how vital Shatter is to a frost mage.

Shatter enables a frost mage to maintain their burst while moving. I think the biggest cause for people thinking that frost mages are fine is because without LoS working, a frost mage can spam frostbolts and fireballs.

Frankly, I would be ok if we had Ele Pet Nova and Deep Freeze Shatters, and I would do without Brain Freeze.

Now is the part I will most likely get the most flak for.
Arcane is an easy spec, but most mages do not know how to use it to its full potential. And yes, Arcane Barrage damage on here is too high.

Mages are and were always underpowered on this server. Try retail with the same gear and come back to me. I agree on the frost thing tho.

waffles wrote:

bertneykek wrote:

I've seen a lot of different views about mages after all the fixes we've gone through.
I think it's time to clear up a few things about them.

1. Now that frost mages have all of their procs working, they are fine.
This is probably the biggest misconception out there.
As it currently stands, a frost mage is missing 3 different Shatters; Deep Freeze, Fingers of Frost, and Ele Pet Freeze.
I cannot stress enough how vital Shatter is to a frost mage.

Shatter enables a frost mage to maintain their burst while moving. I think the biggest cause for people thinking that frost mages are fine is because without LoS working, a frost mage can spam frostbolts and fireballs.

Frankly, I would be ok if we had Ele Pet Nova and Deep Freeze Shatters, and I would do without Brain Freeze.

Now is the part I will most likely get the most flak for.
Arcane is an easy spec, but most mages do not know how to use it to its full potential. And yes, Arcane Barrage damage on here is too high.

Mages are and were always underpowered on this server. Try retail with the same gear and come back to me. I agree on the frost thing tho.

I lol'ed

frost mages should get all that fixed, it's sad how an awesome class/spec cant function 100%, i 'd love the challenge against them as a rogue.

that's why my mage's fire.=/

waffles wrote:

bertneykek wrote:

I've seen a lot of different views about mages after all the fixes we've gone through.
I think it's time to clear up a few things about them.

1. Now that frost mages have all of their procs working, they are fine.
This is probably the biggest misconception out there.
As it currently stands, a frost mage is missing 3 different Shatters; Deep Freeze, Fingers of Frost, and Ele Pet Freeze.
I cannot stress enough how vital Shatter is to a frost mage.

Shatter enables a frost mage to maintain their burst while moving. I think the biggest cause for people thinking that frost mages are fine is because without LoS working, a frost mage can spam frostbolts and fireballs.

Frankly, I would be ok if we had Ele Pet Nova and Deep Freeze Shatters, and I would do without Brain Freeze.

Now is the part I will most likely get the most flak for.
Arcane is an easy spec, but most mages do not know how to use it to its full potential. And yes, Arcane Barrage damage on here is too high.

Mages are and were always underpowered on this server. Try retail with the same gear and come back to me. I agree on the frost thing tho.

I didn't have all the same 213 gear, but I did have some best in slot stuff and the rest was lvl 200 gear, so I do know how drastic the difference is.

Completely agree, with everything working on a mage, paly's would be in trouble

bertneykek wrote:

waffles wrote:

bertneykek wrote:

I've seen a lot of different views about mages after all the fixes we've gone through.
I think it's time to clear up a few things about them.

1. Now that frost mages have all of their procs working, they are fine.
This is probably the biggest misconception out there.
As it currently stands, a frost mage is missing 3 different Shatters; Deep Freeze, Fingers of Frost, and Ele Pet Freeze.
I cannot stress enough how vital Shatter is to a frost mage.

Shatter enables a frost mage to maintain their burst while moving. I think the biggest cause for people thinking that frost mages are fine is because without LoS working, a frost mage can spam frostbolts and fireballs.

Frankly, I would be ok if we had Ele Pet Nova and Deep Freeze Shatters, and I would do without Brain Freeze.

Now is the part I will most likely get the most flak for.
Arcane is an easy spec, but most mages do not know how to use it to its full potential. And yes, Arcane Barrage damage on here is too high.

Mages are and were always underpowered on this server. Try retail with the same gear and come back to me. I agree on the frost thing tho.

I didn't have all the same 213 gear, but I did have some best in slot stuff and the rest was lvl 200 gear, so I do know how drastic the difference is.

If that is the case then you should know arcane blast should be hitting twice the damage it hits here literally. And how are we forgetting about Mirror Image. Thats like a must have to survive against fagadins.

Real pro's go fire.

waffles wrote:

bertneykek wrote:

waffles wrote:

bertneykek wrote:

I've seen a lot of different views about mages after all the fixes we've gone through.
I think it's time to clear up a few things about them.

1. Now that frost mages have all of their procs working, they are fine.
This is probably the biggest misconception out there.
As it currently stands, a frost mage is missing 3 different Shatters; Deep Freeze, Fingers of Frost, and Ele Pet Freeze.
I cannot stress enough how vital Shatter is to a frost mage.

Shatter enables a frost mage to maintain their burst while moving. I think the biggest cause for people thinking that frost mages are fine is because without LoS working, a frost mage can spam frostbolts and fireballs.

Frankly, I would be ok if we had Ele Pet Nova and Deep Freeze Shatters, and I would do without Brain Freeze.

Now is the part I will most likely get the most flak for.
Arcane is an easy spec, but most mages do not know how to use it to its full potential. And yes, Arcane Barrage damage on here is too high.

Mages are and were always underpowered on this server. Try retail with the same gear and come back to me. I agree on the frost thing tho.

I didn't have all the same 213 gear, but I did have some best in slot stuff and the rest was lvl 200 gear, so I do know how drastic the difference is.

If that is the case then you should know arcane blast should be hitting twice the damage it hits here literally. And how are we forgetting about Mirror Image. Thats like a must have to survive against fagadins.

I know about ablast, and the missing debuff on it gimps arcane on here.
And yes, Mirror Image is something that I want, but I honestly don't expect it ever to work on any private server, so I didn't mention it.

Shifthappens wrote:

~Starlight~ wrote:

Real pro's go fire.

Legit pro's play both.

~Starlight~ wrote:

Real pro's go fire.

I am fire since pet nova/shatter does not work properly, QQ

Water Ele + Mirror Image + Icy Veins = Fux crazy burst and dps

Oh well atleast we can still do korean RMPs (if only people knew how to play their classes >.>)
arcane/shadowdance/disc

Locust wrote:

Water Ele + Mirror Image + Icy Veins = Fux crazy burst and dps

Oh well atleast we can still do korean RMPs (if only people knew how to play their classes >.>)
arcane/shadowdance/disc

Pennance not scaling with haste really fucks it up though imo, and no MBAMs = barf.

Mages are bugged to shit here. Just play paladin.

meatballkeeper wrote:

Mages are bugged to shit here. Just play paladin.

Yeah cause paladins bugged to shit in a good way

meatballkeeper wrote:

Mages are bugged to shit here. Just play paladin.

I don't like to 'play to win'. I like to play something I enjoy playing.
I just happen to be good at it.

im not really worried about mages i 2 hit them but there slow is annoying when i have 2 other pallys on my with my bubble on cd so yea. but hopefully they'll get nerfed soon ^^