Hemo Rogue Guide

To all new rogue players, this guide should help you build a decent rogue and improve on it it.

Starting off, you want to pick a build. I prefer Old School Hemo over other builds for its survivability and burst DPS. Other Hemo builds should work fine

2nd, you want to pick out gear array. You can go 2 ways. Survivability with lower DPS or Go High Burst DPS ( I prefer this ) For survivability use Brut. Gear and Gem for 20 attack power. For high burst, get any gear with the highest AP. As for trinkets, a medallion of the alliance is a must(it gives resil unlike the horde one) and a trinket of your choice that either increases AP for a short period or crit overall. Weapon wise just get War Glaives. Ignore the shit people give you, because they are the best 1h swords in the game (Excluding Donor weps) DPS wise and the great 450 haste COH bonus.

And finally strategy. I'll discuss arena since I'm not a world PvP person. Always pop sprint in the beginning. ( Your hit order should be sap, cheap shot hemo/ghost strike + kidney shot when the CS wears off. If you are getting hit throughout, using evasion and cloak of shadows is very helpful. Also using blind to CC or for another CS is a good idea. Be sure to use preparation so the CD on sprint, evasion, CoS, and blind wears off.)This is crucial. If there is another rogue, sap him and take him down. this is generally very easy as they have no armor. Otherwise go for the healer (low armor/in exp'd) or high DPS caster(mage). Whenever your getting hit, use evasion for melee and CoS for magic. Your priority is to stay alive as long as you can to dish out the most DPS. Don't EVER rely on your partner for anything.


Do's and Don'ts
Dont EVER use finishing moves. This is a waste of combo pts. and energy. A hemo can do the same damage as an eviserate w/ 5 combo pts.

Don't switch targets in the middle of a battle. Keep on 1 guy. if its a healer giving you trouble, remeber they dont have unlimited mana and you'll wear them down

Do watch your partners health. Try to stun lock the person attacking him. An extra pair of hands DPSing never hurts,so try keeping him alive

Don't Vanish. Its total shit. Bugged to hell. Just CoS to remove any debuffs and run away, and you can normal stealth.

Do use your trinkets and buffs. Don't hesitate and save them. Most of the time you'll need it anyways.


If you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll reply. Happy Roguing.

I herd AP stacking is skill

I herd hemo spam is skill

Holypeanut wrote:

I herd AP stacking is skill

Really!? I thought rogues need intellect, goddamnit.

i think this guid will be abit more indepth

http://www.vcnserver.net/videos-f36/imba-warlock-keybindings-t19876.htm?highlight=warlock

It requires skill to play a rogue. Despite pressing hemo, you have to stack skills around and maintain survivability. If you use that logic I guess being a mage is easy. Just FB. A shaman? Just TB. A Priest? Just spam heal.

aetherx wrote:

It requires skill to play a rogue. Despite pressing hemo, you have to stack skills around and maintain survivability. If you use that logic I guess being a mage is easy. Just FB. A shaman? Just TB. A Priest? Just spam heal.

This statement is a lie

wait is this guy a troll

Lol

"Don't ever use finishing moves"

"Use warglaives"

rofl a hemo rogue guide

Shockyshocky wrote:

aetherx wrote:

It requires skill to play a rogue. Despite pressing hemo, you have to stack skills around and maintain survivability. If you use that logic I guess being a mage is easy. Just FB. A shaman? Just TB. A Priest? Just spam heal.

This statement is a lie

What class do you play. it must be "hard" too.

vanish is getting y out when mage frozing y or druid is using roots and warglaives bahh Im old school with daggers .I just dont understand why rogues are not using distract here or pots,rocket boots.well If Im using them Its always "speedhacker" and some bitching...

aetherx wrote:

Shockyshocky wrote:

aetherx wrote:

It requires skill to play a rogue. Despite pressing hemo, you have to stack skills around and maintain survivability. If you use that logic I guess being a mage is easy. Just FB. A shaman? Just TB. A Priest? Just spam heal.

This statement is a lie

What class do you play. it must be "hard" too.

Enhance shaman and 0/23/38 survival hunter.

blazejbrzozka wrote:

vanish is getting y out when mage frozing y or druid is using roots :) and warglaives bahh Im old school with daggers .I just dont understand why rogues are not using distract here or pots,rocket boots.well If Im using them Its always "speedhacker" and some bitching...:)

I prefer the AP and armor over speed. Besides 2 sprints is more than enough most of the time.

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Shockyshocky wrote:

aetherx wrote:

It requires skill to play a rogue. Despite pressing hemo, you have to stack skills around and maintain survivability. If you use that logic I guess being a mage is easy. Just FB. A shaman? Just TB. A Priest? Just spam heal.

This statement is a lie

What class do you play. it must be "hard" too.

Enhance shaman and 0/23/38 survival hunter.

For shaman just WF pop BL and Frost shock. Rinse and repeat. For a hunter just use a macro written by a person who plays retail w/rapidfire. Real hard.

Who needs a guide to /rollface on keyboard with hemo bound to every key?

UzedPaper wrote:

Who needs a guide to /rollface on keyboard with hemo bound to every key?

Playing a rogue requires skill. You don't just use hemo. If the player is afk and naked, maybe you would hemo spam. Otherwise it requires strategy and using appropriate skills. Try to roll a rogue and just "hemo spam."

Jesus. Ignorant people like that make me sick.

aetherx wrote:

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Shockyshocky wrote:

aetherx wrote:

It requires skill to play a rogue. Despite pressing hemo, you have to stack skills around and maintain survivability. If you use that logic I guess being a mage is easy. Just FB. A shaman? Just TB. A Priest? Just spam heal.

This statement is a lie

What class do you play. it must be "hard" too.

Enhance shaman and 0/23/38 survival hunter.

For shaman just WF pop BL and Frost shock. Rinse and repeat. For a hunter just use a macro written by a person who plays retail w/rapidfire. Real hard.

lol your way off on shamans.

1) blood lust/heroism doesnt affect melee. 2) we heal too. 3) WF doesnt proc alot 4) you forgot stormstrike & shamanistic rage if your low on mana.

EDIT: oh and shamans gotta set their totems and use their shields.

and hunters

1) scatter shot 2) aimed shot 3) steady shot 4) serpents sting 5) multi shot etc etc... not much of a hunter myself so idc

Im blacka nelf rogue ,Idk Im playing just 2 days .I preffer speed and crit strike,however any spec if y know how to use it its good,depends how quick y are.I wasnt playing for a while and just getting used to play again,this serv is cool but rogue has a bugs he he funniest is prepration is cutting blind or CoS cooldown ... and vanish not working properly I think.well I will do my best to get horde angry see ya .

aetherx wrote:

UzedPaper wrote:

Who needs a guide to /rollface on keyboard with hemo bound to every key?

Playing a rogue requires skill. You don't just use hemo. If the player is afk and naked, maybe you would hemo spam. Otherwise it requires strategy and using appropriate skills. Try to roll a rogue and just "hemo spam."

Jesus. Ignorant people like that make me sick.

Oh my God. Excuse me for forgetting to add in the CS and KS...

aetherx wrote:

Dont EVER use finishing moves. This is a waste of combo pts. and energy. A hemo can do the same damage as an eviserate w/ 5 combo pts.

Don't switch targets in the middle of a battle. Keep on 1 guy. if its a healer giving you trouble, remeber they dont have unlimited mana and you'll wear them down

Don't Vanish. Its total shit. Bugged to hell. Just CoS to remove any debuffs and run away, and you can normal stealth.

these are horrible dont's ><

first one, yes, use finishing moves. use slice and dice if you're about to switch targets, use expose armor on clothies, rupture on everything else.

yes, switch targets in the middle of combat if the situation calls for it. if you're fighting a plate wearer and you dont have him down much and a clothie runs by, you should engage the clothie.

vanish can be used offensively here, vanishing to get off a garrote or cheap shot.

bfk123bfk wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Shockyshocky wrote:

aetherx wrote:

It requires skill to play a rogue. Despite pressing hemo, you have to stack skills around and maintain survivability. If you use that logic I guess being a mage is easy. Just FB. A shaman? Just TB. A Priest? Just spam heal.

This statement is a lie

What class do you play. it must be "hard" too.

Enhance shaman and 0/23/38 survival hunter.

For shaman just WF pop BL and Frost shock. Rinse and repeat. For a hunter just use a macro written by a person who plays retail w/rapidfire. Real hard.

lol your way off on shamans.

1) blood lust/heroism doesnt affect melee. 2) we heal too. 3) WF doesnt proc alot 4) you forgot stormstrike & shamanistic rage if your low on mana.

EDIT: oh and shamans gotta set their totems and use their shields.

and hunters

1) scatter shot 2) aimed shot 3) steady shot 4) serpents sting 5) multi shot etc etc... not much of a hunter myself so idc

I beg to differ. http://thottbot.com/s2825 Anyways, thats going in detail. Rogues have to cast in the begininning too. WF is bugged, if you dual wield it procs rather well. And most hunters haste stack anyways. A macro using steadyshot/attack/arcaneshit is enough. But again you're going into detail. I am replying to the common misconception of rogues just "hemo spamming"

aetherx wrote:

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Shockyshocky wrote:

aetherx wrote:

It requires skill to play a rogue. Despite pressing hemo, you have to stack skills around and maintain survivability. If you use that logic I guess being a mage is easy. Just FB. A shaman? Just TB. A Priest? Just spam heal.

This statement is a lie

What class do you play. it must be "hard" too.

Enhance shaman and 0/23/38 survival hunter.

For shaman just WF pop BL and Frost shock. Rinse and repeat. For a hunter just use a macro written by a person who plays retail w/rapidfire. Real hard.

KAY.

Ignorance is fun.


Hunters~ Easiest class to play, Hardest to play right

Haste cooldowns? yeah they're going to help with a melee right up in my face, and rogue who dodge every fucking wing clip it's harder to kite than you think.

btw you're thinking about the steady shot macro and BW macro

Steady shot is uh
/cast Steady Shot
/cast [target=target] Kill command


BW
/Cast Bestial Wrath
/Cast Intimidation (useless in raids and waste of mana don't use)
/Use trinkets.

rogue is the easiest class to play but y need to know how to play too ... or y just ambushing everyone

meatballkeeper wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Dont EVER use finishing moves. This is a waste of combo pts. and energy. A hemo can do the same damage as an eviserate w/ 5 combo pts.

Don't switch targets in the middle of a battle. Keep on 1 guy. if its a healer giving you trouble, remeber they dont have unlimited mana and you'll wear them down

Don't Vanish. Its total shit. Bugged to hell. Just CoS to remove any debuffs and run away, and you can normal stealth.

these are horrible dont's ><

first one, yes, use finishing moves. use slice and dice if you're about to switch targets, use expose armor on clothies, rupture on everything else.

yes, switch targets in the middle of combat if the situation calls for it. if you're fighting a plate wearer and you dont have him down much and a clothie runs by, you should engage the clothie.

vanish can be used offensively here, vanishing to get off a garrote or cheap shot.

Again this is for beginners. Finishing moves don't account for much. I hardly use them myself and would much rather have the Pts. for another kidney shot. Vanish isn't very good seeing as you cannot cast stealth spells and completely wears off after a coupl,e secs so I dont recommend using it. As for switching targets, you switch on your own judgment, i wouldn't recommend it to a first timer.