Hemo Rogue Guide

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:07 pm

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Shockyshocky wrote:

aetherx wrote:: It requires skill to play a rogue. Despite pressing hemo, you have to stack skills around and maintain survivability. If you use that logic I guess being a mage is easy. Just FB. A shaman? Just TB. A Priest? Just spam heal.

This statement is a lie

What class do you play. it must be "hard" too.

Enhance shaman and 0/23/38 survival hunter.

For shaman just WF pop BL and Frost shock. Rinse and repeat. For a hunter just use a macro written by a person who plays retail w/rapidfire. Real hard.

KAY.

Ignorance is fun.

Hunters~ Easiest class to play, Hardest to play right

Haste cooldowns? yeah they're going to help with a melee right up in my face, and rogue who dodge every fucking wing clip it's harder to kite than you think.

btw you're thinking about the steady shot macro and BW macro

Steady shot is uh
/cast Steady Shot
/cast [target=target] Kill command

BW
/Cast Bestial Wrath
/Cast Intimidation (useless in raids and waste of mana don't use)
/Use trinkets.

See you went into detail. i can say the same about a rogue. So this misconception of just hemo spamming is wrong, as just macroing on a hunter is wrong

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:09 pm

Who honestly needs a guide for this?

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:09 pm

no kiddin, its simple spam hemo and they die GAWG GAME

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:10 pm

aetherx wrote:

bfk123bfk wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Shockyshocky wrote:

aetherx wrote:: It requires skill to play a rogue. Despite pressing hemo, you have to stack skills around and maintain survivability. If you use that logic I guess being a mage is easy. Just FB. A shaman? Just TB. A Priest? Just spam heal.

This statement is a lie

What class do you play. it must be "hard" too.

Enhance shaman and 0/23/38 survival hunter.

For shaman just WF pop BL and Frost shock. Rinse and repeat. For a hunter just use a macro written by a person who plays retail w/rapidfire. Real hard.

lol your way off on shamans.

1) blood lust/heroism doesnt affect melee. 2) we heal too. 3) WF doesnt proc alot 4) you forgot stormstrike & shamanistic rage if your low on mana.

EDIT: oh and shamans gotta set their totems and use their shields.

and hunters

1) scatter shot 2) aimed shot 3) steady shot 4) serpents sting 5) multi shot etc etc... not much of a hunter myself so idc

I beg to differ. http://thottbot.com/s2825 Anyways, thats going in detail. Rogues have to cast in the begininning too. WF is bugged, if you dual wield it procs rather well. And most hunters haste stack anyways. A macro using steadyshot/attack/arcaneshit is enough. But again you're going into detail. I am replying to the common misconception of rogues just "hemo spamming"

well it doesnt here sir, also going into detail? thats nothing of how deep i can go into detail for enhance shamans, i can tell gear, food/pots, gems/enchants, weapons... etc etc. But i will say out of any class rogues are the easiest. and finishing moves help alot, Example: warrior vs rogue, garroate hemo hemo hemo hemo for 4 -5 pts, rupture, repeat. nothing special.

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:10 pm

Stormblast wrote:: Who honestly needs a guide for this?

People who want to roll a rogue. It isn't simple as people seem to place it.

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:10 pm

aetherx wrote:

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Shockyshocky wrote:

aetherx wrote:: It requires skill to play a rogue. Despite pressing hemo, you have to stack skills around and maintain survivability. If you use that logic I guess being a mage is easy. Just FB. A shaman? Just TB. A Priest? Just spam heal.

This statement is a lie

What class do you play. it must be "hard" too.

Enhance shaman and 0/23/38 survival hunter.

For shaman just WF pop BL and Frost shock. Rinse and repeat. For a hunter just use a macro written by a person who plays retail w/rapidfire. Real hard.

KAY.

Ignorance is fun.

Hunters~ Easiest class to play, Hardest to play right

Haste cooldowns? yeah they're going to help with a melee right up in my face, and rogue who dodge every fucking wing clip it's harder to kite than you think.

btw you're thinking about the steady shot macro and BW macro

Steady shot is uh
/cast Steady Shot
/cast [target=target] Kill command

BW
/Cast Bestial Wrath
/Cast Intimidation (useless in raids and waste of mana don't use)
/Use trinkets.

See you went into detail. i can say the same about a rogue. So this misconception of just hemo spamming is wrong, as just macroing on a hunter is wrong

Denial? You kite as my spec kthnx. (P.S there are not macros for hunter pvp but BW tbh)

I'll admit it's than hemo spamming but still incredibly easy. only thing most idiots mess up is saving energy for kick or gouge to stop spells.

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:11 pm

bfk123bfk wrote:

aetherx wrote:

bfk123bfk wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Shockyshocky wrote:

aetherx wrote:: It requires skill to play a rogue. Despite pressing hemo, you have to stack skills around and maintain survivability. If you use that logic I guess being a mage is easy. Just FB. A shaman? Just TB. A Priest? Just spam heal.

This statement is a lie

What class do you play. it must be "hard" too.

Enhance shaman and 0/23/38 survival hunter.

For shaman just WF pop BL and Frost shock. Rinse and repeat. For a hunter just use a macro written by a person who plays retail w/rapidfire. Real hard.

lol your way off on shamans.

1) blood lust/heroism doesnt affect melee. 2) we heal too. 3) WF doesnt proc alot 4) you forgot stormstrike & shamanistic rage if your low on mana.

EDIT: oh and shamans gotta set their totems and use their shields.

and hunters

1) scatter shot 2) aimed shot 3) steady shot 4) serpents sting 5) multi shot etc etc... not much of a hunter myself so idc

I beg to differ. http://thottbot.com/s2825 Anyways, thats going in detail. Rogues have to cast in the begininning too. WF is bugged, if you dual wield it procs rather well. And most hunters haste stack anyways. A macro using steadyshot/attack/arcaneshit is enough. But again you're going into detail. I am replying to the common misconception of rogues just "hemo spamming"

well it doesnt here sir, also going into detail? thats nothing of how deep i can go into detail for enhance shamans, i can tell gear, food/pots, gems/enchants, weapons... etc etc. But i will say out of any class rogues are the easiest. and finishing moves help alot, Example: warrior vs rogue, garroate hemo hemo hemo hemo for 4 -5 pts, rupture, repeat. nothing special.

I am comparing move for move. Saying "hemo spam" is retarded, as I am saying 1-2 moves of an opposite class that is their main attack.

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:13 pm

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Shockyshocky wrote:

aetherx wrote:: It requires skill to play a rogue. Despite pressing hemo, you have to stack skills around and maintain survivability. If you use that logic I guess being a mage is easy. Just FB. A shaman? Just TB. A Priest? Just spam heal.

This statement is a lie

What class do you play. it must be "hard" too.

Enhance shaman and 0/23/38 survival hunter.

For shaman just WF pop BL and Frost shock. Rinse and repeat. For a hunter just use a macro written by a person who plays retail w/rapidfire. Real hard.

KAY.

Ignorance is fun.

Hunters~ Easiest class to play, Hardest to play right

Haste cooldowns? yeah they're going to help with a melee right up in my face, and rogue who dodge every fucking wing clip it's harder to kite than you think.

btw you're thinking about the steady shot macro and BW macro

Steady shot is uh
/cast Steady Shot
/cast [target=target] Kill command

BW
/Cast Bestial Wrath
/Cast Intimidation (useless in raids and waste of mana don't use)
/Use trinkets.

See you went into detail. i can say the same about a rogue. So this misconception of just hemo spamming is wrong, as just macroing on a hunter is wrong

Denial? You kite as my spec kthnx. (P.S there are not macros for hunter pvp but BW tbh)

I'll admit it's than hemo spamming but still incredibly easy. only thing most idiots mess up is saving energy for kick or gouge to stop spells.

And I'm not saying its hard. It just annoys me when people label rogues as hemo spam win. ( I have no hunter knowledge so bear with me)

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:14 pm

aetherx wrote:

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Holypeanut wrote:

aetherx wrote:

Shockyshocky wrote:

aetherx wrote:: It requires skill to play a rogue. Despite pressing hemo, you have to stack skills around and maintain survivability. If you use that logic I guess being a mage is easy. Just FB. A shaman? Just TB. A Priest? Just spam heal.

This statement is a lie

What class do you play. it must be "hard" too.

Enhance shaman and 0/23/38 survival hunter.

For shaman just WF pop BL and Frost shock. Rinse and repeat. For a hunter just use a macro written by a person who plays retail w/rapidfire. Real hard.

KAY.

Ignorance is fun.

Hunters~ Easiest class to play, Hardest to play right

Haste cooldowns? yeah they're going to help with a melee right up in my face, and rogue who dodge every fucking wing clip it's harder to kite than you think.

btw you're thinking about the steady shot macro and BW macro

Steady shot is uh
/cast Steady Shot
/cast [target=target] Kill command

BW
/Cast Bestial Wrath
/Cast Intimidation (useless in raids and waste of mana don't use)
/Use trinkets.

See you went into detail. i can say the same about a rogue. So this misconception of just hemo spamming is wrong, as just macroing on a hunter is wrong

Denial? You kite as my spec kthnx. (P.S there are not macros for hunter pvp but BW tbh)

I'll admit it's than hemo spamming but still incredibly easy. only thing most idiots mess up is saving energy for kick or gouge to stop spells.

And I'm not saying its hard. It just annoys me when people label rogues as hemo spam win. ( I have no hunter knowledge so bear with me)

Ah i see.

I've played a 70 frost mage, 70 enhance shaman, 70 hunter, 70 rogue on retail so I know how they all work. Razz

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:16 pm

I've played a Holy Paladin, Fury War, and Old School Hemo Rogue on retail. I do well on a Holy Priest here though.

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:19 pm

aetherx wrote:: for its survivability and burst DPS

w00t? I'm not sure you understand completly what "burst" means. Hemo's absolutly not the one that gives you most burst damage, although it gives you alot of dps (as in damage per second).

Concering using finishers. You said you were a arena person, if that's true I can imagen you being stuck on 1550... Finishing moves are extremly important. The 1-CP Rupture and Remove Armor are key-moves, not to talk about Slice n' Dice if you now play hemo. Although I don't think you though about it when you wrote it, Deadly Throw is a finisher but I don't think I've got to tell you about how important that move is.

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:21 pm

pwnomglol wrote:

aetherx wrote:: for its survivability and burst DPS

w00t? I'm not sure you understand completly what "burst" means. Hemo's absolutly not the one that gives you most burst damage, although it gives you alot of dps (as in damage per second).

Concering using finishers. You said you were a arena person, if that's true I can imagen you being stuck on 1550... Finishing moves are extremly important. The 1-CP Rupture and Remove Armor are key-moves, not to talk about Slice n' Dice if you now play hemo. Although I don't think you though about it when you wrote it, Deadly Throw is a finisher but I don't think I've got to tell you about how important that move is.

In truth I wrote this while the server was down. Deadly throw is only usable with throwng weps. I carry a bow and finish with that. On a skirmish I don't use finishing moves. Ever. Rated is when it matters. This a starters guide, so they learn the basics. Im sure they'll pick up other things as they lay a rogue.

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:27 pm

aetherx wrote:

pwnomglol wrote:

aetherx wrote:: for its survivability and burst DPS

w00t? I'm not sure you understand completly what "burst" means. Hemo's absolutly not the one that gives you most burst damage, although it gives you alot of dps (as in damage per second).

Concering using finishers. You said you were a arena person, if that's true I can imagen you being stuck on 1550... Finishing moves are extremly important. The 1-CP Rupture and Remove Armor are key-moves, not to talk about Slice n' Dice if you now play hemo. Although I don't think you though about it when you wrote it, Deadly Throw is a finisher but I don't think I've got to tell you about how important that move is.

In truth I wrote this while the server was down. Deadly throw is only usable with throwng weps. I carry a bow and finish with that. On a skirmish I don't use finishing moves. Ever. Rated is when it matters. This a starters guide, so they learn the basics. Im sure they'll pick up other things as they lay a rogue.

Wait wait wait wait. You're playing a rogue and you're using a bow? This is not pre-tbc my friend...

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:28 pm

pwnomglol wrote:

aetherx wrote:

pwnomglol wrote:

aetherx wrote:: for its survivability and burst DPS

w00t? I'm not sure you understand completly what "burst" means. Hemo's absolutly not the one that gives you most burst damage, although it gives you alot of dps (as in damage per second).

Concering using finishers. You said you were a arena person, if that's true I can imagen you being stuck on 1550... Finishing moves are extremly important. The 1-CP Rupture and Remove Armor are key-moves, not to talk about Slice n' Dice if you now play hemo. Although I don't think you though about it when you wrote it, Deadly Throw is a finisher but I don't think I've got to tell you about how important that move is.

In truth I wrote this while the server was down. Deadly throw is only usable with throwng weps. I carry a bow and finish with that. On a skirmish I don't use finishing moves. Ever. Rated is when it matters. This a starters guide, so they learn the basics. Im sure they'll pick up other things as they lay a rogue.

Wait wait wait wait. You're playing a rogue and you're using a bow? This is not pre-tbc my friend...

Yeah. The epic voting one. better attack power. I cannot throw with blades and 10 haste rating isnt that great.

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:31 pm

My version

1. Roll Undead or Night Elf

2. Get PvE Gear and Warglaives (or donate for mofo blades and t7)

3. Put hemo on 3/4 of keybinds

4. Roll Face

That is about how much this thread is worth

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Thu 18 Dec 2008, 10:34 pm

aetherx wrote:

pwnomglol wrote:

aetherx wrote:

pwnomglol wrote:

aetherx wrote:: for its survivability and burst DPS

w00t? I'm not sure you understand completly what "burst" means. Hemo's absolutly not the one that gives you most burst damage, although it gives you alot of dps (as in damage per second).

Concering using finishers. You said you were a arena person, if that's true I can imagen you being stuck on 1550... Finishing moves are extremly important. The 1-CP Rupture and Remove Armor are key-moves, not to talk about Slice n' Dice if you now play hemo. Although I don't think you though about it when you wrote it, Deadly Throw is a finisher but I don't think I've got to tell you about how important that move is.

In truth I wrote this while the server was down. Deadly throw is only usable with throwng weps. I carry a bow and finish with that. On a skirmish I don't use finishing moves. Ever. Rated is when it matters. This a starters guide, so they learn the basics. Im sure they'll pick up other things as they lay a rogue.

Wait wait wait wait. You're playing a rogue and you're using a bow? This is not pre-tbc my friend...

Yeah. The epic voting one. better attack power. I cannot throw with blades and 10 haste rating isnt that great.

I'd rather wear a grey level 1 throwing axe than not being able to use DT.

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Fri 19 Dec 2008, 7:41 pm

horrible guide.

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Sat 20 Dec 2008, 6:56 am

HAHHAHAHA
@ your dont's
dont use fisnisher
dont watch party hp
dont watch more than 1 noob in arena

rofl dude are you just serious or is this a lame joke?
if srous welcoma to 1300 rating rofl

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Sat 20 Dec 2008, 7:06 am

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Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Mon 22 Dec 2008, 3:57 pm

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Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Mon 22 Dec 2008, 7:13 pm

anyone who seriously thinks hemo is all you need why dont u make a rogue and JUST use hemo against any smart opponent or team. ok?

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Mon 22 Dec 2008, 7:47 pm

i lol'd

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Tue 23 Dec 2008, 10:11 am

@Guide Author

You contradict yourself and you just say really odd things.

You say never to use finishing moves yet you say stunlock (kidney shot) if your partner is getting attacked hard.

You say its a waste of CP and Energy. Any good rogue specs into Relentless Strikes and wtf are you gonna use the CP else for.

And Finally, "Don't ever rely on your partner for anything."
I guess you just 1v2 your way to victory then.

/facepalm

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Fri 16 Jan 2009, 2:04 pm

aetherx wrote:: Do's and Don'ts
DontEVERuse finishing moves. This is a waste of combo pts. and energy. A hemo can do the same damage as an eviserate w/ 5 combo pts.

Do use your trinkets and buffs. Don't hesitate and save them. Most of the time you'll need it anyways.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll reply. Happy Roguing.

Ummm did you forget about slice n dice...or possibly expose armor

Subject: Re: Hemo Rogue Guide Fri 16 Jan 2009, 3:49 pm

this thread has fail written all over it.
op is a bad rogue carried by AP/voting gear and bug abusing.
preparation ISNT supposed to reset cd on blind and CoS. you do have to use vanish, its an essential skill even though its broken. you do need to use other finishing moves, learn to fucking play.
please, bad rogues should not make guides.

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