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PostSubject: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Wed 28 Jan 2009, 5:06 pm

close pls


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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Wed 28 Jan 2009, 5:07 pm

Crexu wrote:
anyone want a mage guide? just wondering if its worth my time to make one, i dont want to make one for nobody to use it
i can use a fire mag guide
i sux at it:D
= be good on pserver
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Wed 28 Jan 2009, 5:11 pm

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Crexu wrote:
anyone want a mage guide? just wondering if its worth my time to make one, i dont want to make one for nobody to use it
i can use a fire mag guide
i sux at it:D
= be good on pserver

k im gonna make a frost mage guide first since its the spec ive been playing alot lately
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Wed 28 Jan 2009, 6:39 pm

there if anyone would like arcane fire or elemental guides too say here
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Wed 28 Jan 2009, 7:04 pm

triple post wins
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Wed 28 Jan 2009, 8:33 pm

bump
nobody wants to read my leet guide /sad
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Wed 28 Jan 2009, 8:35 pm

Crexu wrote:
Crexu's Frost Mage PvP guide.

READ -
will update talent trees when i can get ingame and will add strategy vs classes very soon!

Updates - Added Enchants
Added Mage vs Rogue


Races
Ok so the first thing you do when you start a Mage is pick your race.

Blood Elf
Ok so they have the mana tap which is very good vs healers if youre trying to oom them and the silence is AMAZING only downside is they look pretty gay Sad .

Troll
Ahh trolls aren't really a great race the haste buff spell is OK i wouldn't recommend Troll.

Undead
Coolest looking race ever imo, Will of the Forsaken is a godsend vs locks and priests.

Gnome
+5% intellect is very good since it's one of the main stats for a mage, escape artist is FTW.

Human
Perception.. isn't really too good helps you out vs 2 classes but 90% of the time i let Rogue/Druids get the opener to be polite Smile .

Draenei
If you wanna look like a squid then this race is for you, Gift of the Naaru decent racial but not as good as the Blood Elf silence or Gnome Escape Artist.

In the end it's all upto you, I chose undead for my Mage because it looked the best imo and the racial is decent.
If you want to pick a race because of the racial then i'd choose BLood Elf for Horde and Gnome for Alliance.




Gear
The second thing you'll want to do is gear up (now this is just the gear I like you can change it around if you want)

Brutal Gladiators silk amice - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35096
Brutal Gladiators silk raiment - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35099
Brutal Gladiators silk handguards - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35098
Leggings of calamity - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34181
Annihilator Holo-Gogs - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34847 (need engineering)
Guardians Silk Belt - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35164
Guardians Silk cuffs - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35179
Guardians Silk Footguards - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35149
Guardians Band of Dominance x2 - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35129
Guardians Pendant of Dominance - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35133
Cloak of Subjugated Power - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33304
Medallion of the Horde - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37865

There are alot of nice trinkets for your other slot
Hex Shrunken Head - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33829
The Skull of Gul'dan - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32483
Spyglass of the Hidden Fleet - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30620
Talisman of the Horde - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24551
Battlemaster's Depravity - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34577
Battlemaster's Audacity - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34579



Gems

Yellow
+10 Critical Strike - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32207
+10 Intellect - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32204
+10 Spell Haste - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35761
+10 Resillience - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32209

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+12 Spell Damage - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32196

Blue
+15 Stamina - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32200

Orange (Yellow and Red)
+5 Spell Haste and +6 Spell Damage - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35760
+5 Critical Strike and +6 Spell Damage - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32218
+6 Spell Damage and +5 Intellect - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32219
+5 Hit Rating and +6 Spell Damage - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32221

Purple (Red and Blue)
+6 Spell Power and +7 Stamina - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32215

Meta
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Enchants
Feet - +9 Stamina and Run Speed
Rings - +4 Stats
Legs - +35 Spell Damage and + 20 Stamina - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24274
Gloves - +28 Spell power - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38979
Bracers - +15 Spell Power - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38903
Chest - +6 Stats - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38913
Shoulder - +15 Critical Strike and +12 Spell Damage - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28909
Helm - +22 Spell Power and +14 Spell Hit - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29191
Weapon - +40 Spell Damage - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38921
Cloak - +20 Spell Penetration - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38939


Macros
Now alot of macros don't even work on private servers so i'm only using one atm

Ice Block -
#showtooltip Ice Block
/stopcast
/cancelaura Ice Block
/cast Ice Block

This will make it so the first time you press it it will put you in Ice Block then press it again you will immediately come out of it.


Talent builds.
Now as I said above this is just a Frost guide. (Might add Fire, Arcane or Elemental if people want me to)
Atm I don't have acces to a 2.4.3 Talent calculator and I can't get ingame atm so i'm just trying to remember it off the top of my head (I will update it with more specs soon)


17/0/44 The cookie-cutter Frost build most mages use.


Arcane
Arcane Subtlety 2/2
Arcane Focus 3/5
Arcane Concentration 5/5
Arcane Fortitude 1/1
Arcane Impact 2/3
Magic attunement 2/2
Improved Counterspell 2/2


Frost
Improved Frostbolt 5/5
Frostbite 3/3
Ice Shards 5/5
Improved Frost Nova 2/2
Piercing Ice 3/3
Icy Veins 1/1
Artic reach 2/2
Shatter 5/5
Cold Snap 1/1
Ice Floes 2/2
Improved Cone of Cold 3/3
Ice Barrier 1/1
Winters Chill 5/5
Arctic Winds 5/5
Summon Water Elemental 1/1

ok thats probably wrong so i'll update it when i can actually get a look at a talent tree




Mage vs Rogue
Ahh those dreaded Rogues probably the hardest class for Mages to beat if they are both of equal skill.
Ok so start off with Mana Shield and Ice Barrier up I usually let rogues get the opener, he will cheap shot immediately blink out of this the Rogue will shadowstep and kidney shot you now you can ice block out of it now you must act very fast because for the nest few seconds you will be free before he can get crippling back on you, cone of cold him try and gain a little distance use fireblast aswell he will probably pop sprint here. Hit frost nova he will use cloak of shadows to get out of this, hit him with your wand while hes in cloak as soon as he gets out cone of cold fireblast again then summon your elemental and quickly hit the freeze and ice lance at the same time he will trinket out of this blink any stuns if he blind you trinket out of it once his cloak and trinkets gone if you can stay alive long enough for your nova to come off cooldown its pretty much over for the rogue keep casting instants when hes up in your face thats pretty much it.


Difficulty 5/5

Kick ass cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Wed 28 Jan 2009, 8:36 pm

thx What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Wed 28 Jan 2009, 11:46 pm

Nice guide
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Wed 28 Jan 2009, 11:51 pm

Make Frost mage guide when your PoM Pyro...
LUL
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Wed 28 Jan 2009, 11:57 pm

Ubberpownage88 wrote:
Make Frost mage guide when your PoM Pyro...
LUL

IM NOT POM PYRO?
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Thu 29 Jan 2009, 6:09 am

Awesome guide cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Thu 29 Jan 2009, 6:18 am

cool story bro
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Thu 29 Jan 2009, 7:02 am

Not bad at all
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Thu 29 Jan 2009, 8:03 am

i came.
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Thu 29 Jan 2009, 8:05 am

Frosty wrote:
i came.

Nice Talents
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Thu 29 Jan 2009, 8:09 am

Crexu wrote:
Crexu's Frost Mage PvP guide.

READ -
will update talent trees when i can get ingame and will add strategy vs classes very soon!


Updates - Added Enchants
Added Mage vs Rogue
Added Mage vs Mage and Shaman


Races
Ok so the first thing you do when you start a Mage is pick your race.

Blood Elf
Ok so they have the mana tap which is very good vs healers if youre trying to oom them and the silence is AMAZING only downside is they look pretty gay Sad .

Troll
Ahh trolls aren't really a great race the haste buff spell is OK i wouldn't recommend Troll.

Undead
Coolest looking race ever imo, Will of the Forsaken is a godsend vs locks and priests.

Gnome
+5% intellect is very good since it's one of the main stats for a mage, escape artist is FTW.

Human
Perception.. isn't really too good helps you out vs 2 classes but 90% of the time i let Rogue/Druids get the opener to be polite Smile .

Draenei
If you wanna look like a squid then this race is for you, Gift of the Naaru decent racial but not as good as the Blood Elf silence or Gnome Escape Artist.

In the end it's all upto you, I chose undead for my Mage because it looked the best imo and the racial is decent.
If you want to pick a race because of the racial then i'd choose BLood Elf for Horde and Gnome for Alliance.




Gear
The second thing you'll want to do is gear up (now this is just the gear I like you can change it around if you want)

Brutal Gladiators silk amice - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35096
Brutal Gladiators silk raiment - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35099
Brutal Gladiators silk handguards - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35098
Leggings of calamity - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34181
Annihilator Holo-Gogs - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34847 (need engineering)
Guardians Silk Belt - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35164
Guardians Silk cuffs - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35179
Guardians Silk Footguards - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35149
Guardians Band of Dominance x2 - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35129
Guardians Pendant of Dominance - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35133
Cloak of Subjugated Power - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33304
Medallion of the Horde - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37865

There are alot of nice trinkets for your other slot
Hex Shrunken Head - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33829
The Skull of Gul'dan - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32483
Spyglass of the Hidden Fleet - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30620
Talisman of the Horde - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24551
Battlemaster's Depravity - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34577
Battlemaster's Audacity - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34579



Gems

Yellow
+10 Critical Strike - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32207
+10 Intellect - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32204
+10 Spell Haste - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35761
+10 Resillience - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32209

Red
+12 Spell Damage - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32196

Blue
+15 Stamina - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32200

Orange (Yellow and Red)
+5 Spell Haste and +6 Spell Damage - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35760
+5 Critical Strike and +6 Spell Damage - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32218
+6 Spell Damage and +5 Intellect - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32219
+5 Hit Rating and +6 Spell Damage - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32221

Purple (Red and Blue)
+6 Spell Power and +7 Stamina - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32215

Meta
+12 Spell Damage and Run speed - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28557



Enchants
Feet - +9 Stamina and Run Speed
Rings - +12 spell damage
Legs - +35 Spell Damage and + 20 Stamina - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24274
Gloves - +28 Spell power - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38979
Bracers - +15 Spell Power - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38903
Chest - +6 Stats - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38913
Shoulder - +15 Critical Strike and +12 Spell Damage - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28909
Helm - +22 Spell Power and +14 Spell Hit - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29191
Weapon - +40 Spell Damage - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38921
Cloak - +20 Spell Penetration - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38939


Macros
Now alot of macros don't even work on private servers so i'm only using one atm

Ice Block -
#showtooltip Ice Block
/stopcast
/cancelaura Ice Block
/cast Ice Block

This will make it so the first time you press it it will put you in Ice Block then press it again you will immediately come out of it.


Talent builds.
Now as I said above this is just a Frost guide. (Might add Fire, Arcane or Elemental if people want me to)
Atm I don't have acces to a 2.4.3 Talent calculator and I can't get ingame atm so i'm just trying to remember it off the top of my head (I will update it with more specs soon)


17/0/44 The cookie-cutter Frost build most mages use.


Arcane
Arcane Subtlety 2/2
Arcane Focus 3/5
Arcane Concentration 5/5
Arcane Fortitude 1/1
Arcane Impact 2/3
Magic attunement 2/2
Improved Counterspell 2/2


Frost
Improved Frostbolt 5/5
Frostbite 3/3
Ice Shards 5/5
Improved Frost Nova 2/2
Piercing Ice 3/3
Icy Veins 1/1
Artic reach 2/2
Shatter 5/5
Cold Snap 1/1
Ice Floes 2/2
Improved Cone of Cold 3/3
Ice Barrier 1/1
Winters Chill 5/5
Arctic Winds 5/5
Summon Water Elemental 1/1

ok thats probably wrong so i'll update it when i can actually get a look at a talent tree




Mage vs Rogue
Ahh those dreaded Rogues probably the hardest class for Mages to beat if they are both of equal skill.
Ok so start off with Mana Shield and Ice Barrier up I usually let rogues get the opener, he will cheap shot immediately blink out of this the Rogue will shadowstep and kidney shot you now you can ice block out of it now you must act very fast because for the nest few seconds you will be free before he can get crippling back on you, cone of cold him try and gain a little distance use fireblast aswell he will probably pop sprint here. Hit frost nova he will use cloak of shadows to get out of this, hit him with your wand while hes in cloak as soon as he gets out cone of cold fireblast again then summon your elemental and quickly hit the freeze and ice lance at the same time he will trinket out of this blink any stuns if he blind you trinket out of it once his cloak and trinkets gone if you can stay alive long enough for your nova to come off cooldown its pretty much over for the rogue keep casting instants when hes up in your face thats pretty much it.

Difficulty 5/5


Mage vs Mage
Mirror match What a Face
Ok to start stand close to him hit cone of cold then fireblast frost nova him forcing a blink then hit scorch he will most likely silence you hit him with wand if he novas you while youre silenced trinket out of it immediately, now you are free to cast whatever you want so pop icy veins and your spell damage/haste trinket (if you have one) and spam frostbolt (make sure you dont cast any frost spell while his silence is up) now you will be putting out alot of damage most of the time your target panics because he is dropping health so quickly and this forces him to play defensive, now from here its basically gg (always keep frostward and ice barrier up, silence any frost spell or fire if he is specced that way he casts) if you are a little more experienced you can try fake casting.

Difficulty 3/5


Mage vs Resto/Elemental Shaman
Alright this is a pretty simple fight so il keep it short
Stand around 25 yards away from him so he cant earth shock you (20 yard range earth shock is nothing to 36yard frostbolt) ice block chain lightning when he gets to around 50% hp silence any spell he casts then pop icy veins/trinket and frostbolt him if he gets too close fake cast earth shocks or use scorch

Difficulty 2/5

I love how you make a guide as if you were a pro, but then when an arms warrior (Counterclass is mage) totally obliterates you in a duel you blame it on the lag.
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Thu 29 Jan 2009, 8:11 am

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You fucking suck at internet meme's and burns
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Thu 29 Jan 2009, 9:23 am

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Lisyhalath wrote:
cool story bro
You fucking suck at internet meme's and burns

that was a burn yeah.......................


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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Thu 29 Jan 2009, 10:23 am

Lisyhalath wrote:
Saywha wrote:
Lisyhalath wrote:
cool story bro
You fucking suck at internet meme's and burns

that was a burn yeah.......................


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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Thu 29 Jan 2009, 12:11 pm

vs rogue is more vs a random rogue
but why make a macro for ice block:x
i bind it to X
1time i press x i do iceblok
2nd time i press X i unbuff iceblok...
no need for a macro
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Thu 29 Jan 2009, 12:17 pm

stevos007 wrote:
vs rogue is more vs a random rogue
but why make a macro for ice block:x
i bind it to X
1time i press x i do iceblok
2nd time i press X i unbuff iceblok...
no need for a macro

It's slower that way
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Thu 29 Jan 2009, 3:17 pm

[/quote] I love how you make a guide as if you were a pro, but then when an arms warrior (Counterclass is mage) totally obliterates you in a duel you blame it on the lag.[/quote]

huh? have we met? what server was this on
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Thu 29 Jan 2009, 3:20 pm

cba to read it.
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PostSubject: Re: Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.   Thu 29 Jan 2009, 3:21 pm

Zerocool wrote:
cba to read it.

np youre a rogue

rofl rogues
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Crexu's Frost Mage Guide.
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